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First I hope you gave that doctor an earful for yelling at you.
The LAST thing anyone needs in a stressful situation is to be yelled at.

You do need to talk to someone about what is going on. Someone that you can open up to, express your fears to without judgement.
Call YOUR doctor. Make an appointment if you need to. Explain the situation and ask that they refer you to a therapist. You might even want to contact the American Cancer Society and see if they could refer you to someone or a Support Group that might be helpful. Talking to people that KNOW what you are going through helps a lot.
Unfortunately so many caregivers put off their own appointments because they are are busy caring for someone else. You can not afford to do that, what happens to him if you get sick? Who cares for both of you?
(and 2 years of delayed appointments because of COVID makes making an appointment even more difficult. {just a side note to show how delayed...., I had surgery in January and my "post op" appointment has been changed again until June 21!})
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Lynn64 Jun 2022
Yes that doctor was something else. It’s bad enough to be told that you have some dreaded disease but then he goes on to tell you that you only have months to live and you better leave now if you want any chance of survival and yes he was yelling this at us. I told my husband that we were not going back to that doctor ever again! My husband was so laid back that he didn’t care one way or the other but I just didn’t want to be subjected to that again. The thought of it brings me back to that day and it’s a nightmare to re- live it.

Yeah Covid has made things really difficult. When my husband was having complications- couldn’t get him in to see someone for a colonoscopy. It was at least a month out. I had to force my husband into the ER and then they were able to do the procedure the next day. Good thing he was seen because he was having a good case of graft vs host disease which can be lethal if left unchecked and even when they are monitoring it- it can still take out a person.

I am going to get myself checked out
but I’m hoping I can get a therapy session in before I have to do it because it won’t be easy. My friends tell me they give their burdens to God to get them through difficult times. I have been and will be doing that every single day. Thanks for your response.
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PTSD can indeed be induced by a wide variety of situations. Do not pay attention to anyone telling you that "People don't become a psychiatrist by navigating the Internet or by reading the DSM-5." which is rude & uncalled for, not to mention an absolute diagnosis by someone on the internet who's unqualified to make such a diagnosis.

When I met my biological family in 2000, I was diagnosed with PTSD afterward. And I hadn't even met them in person yet, just over the phone! Paxil helped me tremendously, by the way.

PTSD can come about from a wide variety of situations, including an anxiety provoking caregiving situation that's gone on for a long period of time! I have a good friend who's suffering from this exact situation and medicated for it by her PCP.

There is also something called CPTSD or Chronic PTSD which you should Google and read about; it's associated with chronic, ongoing trauma vs a single event that leads to PTSD.

Definitely see your doctor to talk about this situation in further detail.

Best of luck!
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Lynn64 Jun 2022
Thanks for your support I appreciate it. I wouldn’t mind doing the antidepressants but I have tried to go on them and just had too many side effects plus I didn’t like having all my emotions be flat lined but I can see your point. Therapy hasn’t really helped me very much.

I am extremely sensitive- actually I’ve been called an Empath. I think the stuff I’ve been through with my husband- it really has affected me.

I’ve been taking something called Rescue Remedy and something called Calm by Highland and they have worked wonders and they have kept me from freaking out.It’s all homeopathic. Plus I’m heavily into qigong practice - been taking many workshops and working with a qigong master. Also doing something called EFT. Everything has helped to a certain degree but it’s been nice to get the support of all of you. That has really helped too so thank you!
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You have been overwhelmed by anxiety but it's not PTSD. People don't become a psychiatrist by navigating the Internet or by reading the DSM-5.
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poodledoodle Jun 2022
“People don't become a psychiatrist by navigating the Internet or by reading the DSM-5.”

I see your point. But psychiatrists make many mistakes as well, mis-diagnosing a lot (throughout history and now too). We shouldn’t have too much faith in them.

And some things (like feeling traumatized, worried, stressed) are common sense. You don’t need a doctor to tell you, you’ve been traumatized, etc.

Some non-medical people are wiser than medical people: not only about the correct diagnosis, but the correct/good way out of it.
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Yes, and yes and did I mention, yes. If everyone is totally honest, you cannot be impacted by caregiving and some bodies and minds are not as good dealing with that trauma as others. Therapy is a good thing to help process caregiving stresses.
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Thank you for the helpful answers. I totally agree with all that you said. I definitely have aged 10 years. I used to look about 15 years younger than my actual age. Can’t say that anymore. I also had to have my toe treated for an infection. Never ever had problems in my feet before but it’s because I’m doing all the yard work for my husband- climbing ladders and being on riding mowers at age 64. I slightly injured my toe and now it’s got a staph or strep deal going on.

Anyway I tried to make an
appointment to see a doc for a checkup but there will be a delay because I’m a new patient and I have to have my records sent. I also signed up for an online therapist. We will see how that works. I wanted to see a somatic therapist because I’ve done talk therapy and EMDR and frankly it didn’t do a whole lot for me so I wanted to try a different approach.

Thanks for letting me unload. It’s been helpful.
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lealonnie1 Jun 2022
Lynn; for what it's worth, nothing but Paxil helped me thru my bout with PTSD. Praying didn't get me thru it, talk therapy didn't get me thru it, only meds. THEN the praying and talk therapy were effective, but not until the meds kicked in and cleared my hyper sensitive head out to where I could stop crying long enough to sleep, eat, etc.
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Yes.   Several years ago after my sister died of metastatic breast cancer, I did a bit of research on how stress affected caregivers.    The results were very interesting, and somewhat unsettling, and unfortunately no longer available at the original sites.

Those who had provided caregiving had IL-6 levels significantly higher for individuals of the same age who hadn't cared for someone.

This addresses the new nomenclature:

"PTSD and DSM-5
In 2013, the American Psychiatric Association revised the PTSD diagnostic criteria in the fifth edition of its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5; 1). PTSD is included in a new category in DSM-5, Trauma- and Stressor-Related Disorders. All of the conditions included in this classification require exposure to a traumatic or stressful event as a diagnostic criterion."

https://www.ptsd.va.gov/professional/treat/essentials/dsm5_ptsd.asp

I have also read that it's referred to not as PTSD but PTSS (Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome), which makes sense b/c it seems to function more as a syndrome than a disorder.  I would argue that this kind of experience, just like that in wartime, isn't a syndrome; it's more of a body's response to conditions for which we never really acclimated.   I yield, however, to those with medical and/or psychiatric experience.
  
One of the very interesting aspects of the earlier literature was the comparison of IL-6 in noncaregiving individuals to those who had cared for someone for  a significant length of time.  

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC166443/

" Caregivers' average rate of increase in IL-6 was about four times as large as that of noncaregivers." and

"These data provide evidence of a key mechanism through which chronic stressors may accelerate risk of a host of age-related diseases by prematurely aging the immune response."  (kind of scary, isn't it?)

and

"A growing body of evidence has implicated caregiving as a risk factor for health. Compared with noncaregivers, men and women who provide care to a spouse with a stroke or dementia report more infectious illness episodes (1), they have poorer immune responses to influenza virus and pneumococcal pneumonia vaccines (2–4), their wounds heal more slowly (5), they are at greater risk for developing mild hypertension (6, 7), and they may be at greater risk for coronary heart disease (8). Moreover, a prospective longitudinal study found that the relative risk for all-cause mortality among strained caregivers was 63% higher than noncaregiving controls (9)."  (Numbers in parentheses refer to citations in the article.

This addresses only spousal caring for those with stroke or dementia; there are obviously a lot of other caregiving situations besides these two.

Not good; we caregivers have to take extra special care of ourselves.
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poodledoodle Jun 2022
I agree with all your research.

Also this:
“we caregivers have to take extra special care of ourselves.”

I’ll add:
In fact the less you care, the “better off” you are: financially, emotionally, physically.

The more heartless you are, the better you’ll do in this world. Stepping on others, getting richer; selfishly just thinking about your own life.

But:
We’ll all prove them wrong. As someone else posted: let’s show them it’s not a disadvantage to be kind: let’s “win” against the jerks of the world.
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I am so glad you recognize the need for professional help. You are right. And you are far from alone.
I would never have been strong enough to be in home caregiver to anyone 24/7, but I did manage my brother's Trust as Trustee and I was his POA. Just getting all of that together from half the state away made me so anxious I thought my eye tic was permanent. I was jumpy. I was afraid. And I will be so honest as to say it has, at 80, left me less strong. I learned a lot. I did a great job, and now it is over. I can recognize and appreciate that, BUT, it has made me a bit more "fearful" of everything from airline flights (which I had cancelled until I thought I'd go nuts) of finances and documentation, of loss of my partner and what that would mean. To say nothing of the tech that keeps passing us by as we age. It has in some ways made me stronger, but in some ways there is--just as you observed--a PTSD that persists.
I wish you the best and my heart goes out to you.
(And here's just how nutty it can get. Sometimes I lay in bed awaiting sleep saying "spell world backwards" or "subtract by 7s from 100", and etc. Hee hee. It is both funny and NOT).
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Christine44 Jun 2022
I waited to comment on your post (the last one as of writing right now) as I couldn't hold back. Lynn's mention of a doctor yelling at her and her husband made me so angry I would have launched into a major rant -- as I have been through this. But that's not what she needs to hear. On that point, however, I'll just say this: in my humble opinion if a doctor starts yelling at you, I'd say: 1) get away from him/her asap IF it's possible; 2) do not waste time "reporting" this MD to any professional body; such entities, like most professional or oversight bodies are basically "self-policed" (I believe) and nothing will happen to the doctor you report. Public health bodies (i.e. at the state level) are another possible avenue to explore for "reporting" a doctor, but I wouldn't hold my breath on any consequences from this tactic.

Your comment about "the tech that keeps passing us by as we age" caught my eye. I have been trying since January to purchase a new laptop which I absolutely need. After a TON of research, I finally bought a new one at a major retailer and was so excited to turn it on so I wouldn't have to keep borrowing one from a library. I never got to first base, meaning it simply wouldn't turn on -- and this was from one of the two major manufacturers of laptops. The retailer refused to give me back my total purchase price -- they wanted to keep $300 -- but after a major 3-month battle which involved dozens of pages of documents faxed to my bank, accusing the retailer of fraud, I finally prevailed. (I'm still using a borrowed laptop from the library). Smartphones are another story -- and we need these, like the computer, for medical related questions/appointments, etc. I'll not go into my experience in that realm but I'll just say this, again based on personal experience: you have to be VERY cautious in putting any new software on your phones (aka "software updates"). If you're unsure of what the update will do to the phone, or whether your phone is new enough to handle the update, just say no.
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