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He needs care during the day while his wife works. He was hospitalized for a few weeks before Thanksgiving, then released to a rehab facility until last week. His health insurance pressed and pressed the rehab facility to release him because they felt he could take care of himself. He can't do so if he can't get up from bed without assistance. We're afraid he may fall and seriously hurt himself, make a mess trying to go to the toilet, not be able to eat because he can't get to the kitchen, etc. He was released from the rehab facility last Thursday and we had to take him back to the hospital Monday morning for leg, foot and abdominal swelling, now the hospital says he has to be discharged from the hospital and that they can't release him to a rehab center. It's all because the insurance carrier Cigna Healthspring doesn't want pay for anymore coverage for him. What is my family to do?

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Contact social services at the hospital and very clearly tell them that it is an unsafe situation with no supporting care available by family at your parents home and that family will not be picking him up & taking him home when he is discharged. And you have to stick to this mantra and stick with this plan and do NOT go and get him from the hospital! They may start calling all phone #'s for contacts for dad, so let them all know what the response must be.

Social services deal with these issues every day and they will have to put a plan in place to have him transferred to a facility. You stay clear on being there and having him in a wheelchair looking all pitiful and you give in and take him back home. Do what you can to support his wife in all this as she may relent and take him back. The hospitals default is to move the issue back to family if at all possible - then it's your & her problem. Don't let that happen.

Now if your parents can private pay for care in a NH & have oodles of $$$, then he's going to have to go that route for payment. But if his wife is somewhat a younger and healthier second wife, she is going to be able to considered the "community spouse" for Medicaid. CS situations are really a lot more complex of a Medicaid application than that for a widow or widower. Really she needs to speak with a NAELA level elder law atty asap. Now one issue with CS Medicaid is that their assets have a "snapshot" day in which their assets are fixed or tied to. If she needs to move $ around or change things or pay off stuff, all this has to be done before the Medicaid application is filed & the snapshot is taken. Comprende? My suggestion is to tell social services that he will go into the NH as private pay but will transition to Medicaid within 90 days. So they find him a bed in a Nh that takes Medicaid. It may not be your optimum first place choice, but you need to find a bed and get whatever done to get him onto Medicaid and wife as his CS done. You and his wife (I'm assuming it's not your mom, but perhaps not?) need to become Team Dad and work together to get whatever done to get him onto Medicaid but provide for wife to be a CS and not herself become impoverished.

Why the no release to a rehab center? Is it because he did not progress within the 21 days from the first time he was in rehab (the first 21 is covered by Medicare from a hospitalization) and that since it may not be enough time between incidents Medicare will not pay? Or is it that he is actually not hospitalized but is under "observation" at the hospital so that there is no discharge to rehab option available as he is not actually hospitalized. btw the whole "observation" is a huge issue for anyone dealing with medical costs as observation is not at all covered like a hospitalization is for Medicare and other health insurance policies.

If you can, see if you can speak with rehab at the old facility to see what Dad was like while there & under Medicare. You will need to have either DPOA or HIPPA clearance to do this but if his wife does then she requests it and you go with her to either speak to therapists or get copies of his medical file to get a better understanding on what's what.

Good luck and try not to get too overwhelmed & take a break often.
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If the cancer is not operable, then I would look into the Hospice program as probey suggests. If it can be operated on, you may need an elder attorney to help with making him eligible for Medicaid. Before you do anything else, you will need to read up on the requirements of Medicaid eligibility, and make sure he meets the income and assets part first. Do what needs to be done to get him considered eligible.
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My father in-law declined rapidly once the prostate cancer reached his spine. It is time for Hospice. He stopped walking in December and died in March.
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I would look into Hospice programs. They have many programs lasting 12 to 13 months.Is there an Area Agency on Aging in your area? They have great resources available to get assistance in place.
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Alirah1, sorry to read about your Dad, this can be difficult for everyone. If your Dad can't be alone while his wife works, then the best thing to do is call a caregiver Agency and interview them [they will also interview the family] to see what is available for him.

Unless your Dad has long-term-care insurance, the cost will be out of pocket. Agency costs on average are $25 per hour depending on where you live and the cost-of-living in your area, thus if the wife is away 10 hours at work [including commuting time], the cost would be $250 per day. Yes, that's expensive but he would get good care.
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