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I was a caregiver for my grandmother for almost a year and had to leave because the bullying was too much from her, family friends and family. I was tricked into it in the first place with promises of two days off. I was treated like a slave and worked so hard and and they treated me like I had to do all of these things because I lived there but was guilted into moving in or she would go to a nursing home, so I obliged not knowing the nightmare.


Now my mom is going on vacation and she deserves it and I don’t want to ruin it. She is not happy for my sister as a caregiver but she said she won’t do anything until after the vacation. Now she is saying to my boyfriend that she is not happy with my sister and doesn’t want her being there the whole time and didn’t even ask me talking to him casually like I was going to be there when I was under the impression that my sister will be there the whole time since she is a paid caregiver and that is what everyone, especially my sister who gets paid for it, kept on saying. Now they are talking like I will do it without even having that conversation with me like I already agreed. My mom wants to go on this vacation that it was decided that my sister will stay those nine days, but I feel like she is self sabotaging by trying to change things before the vacation because she is not happy with my sister but she already said she will fix it when she comes back from vacation and find a caregiver.


I made it clear that I would not and refuse to be alone with my grandmother and finally stood my ground until recently. There was a emergency so I stopped by and it was assumed I would stay the night even without asking me. I felt like I had no choice because of the nature of the emergency.


Now I am talked to like I will stay there during her vacation and wasn’t even asked and I even stated that I refuse to be alone with her and made it clear.


I thought things were different between my family and grandmother but I continued to be bullied and my grandmother tried to set me up for elder abuse again by extending her leg really quick and quickly kicked the wall and told my mom’s friend who continues to bully me that I purposely hit her leg on the wall.


I don’t understand that she doesn’t want her vacation to be sabotaged but she is sabotaging it. I feel like I am traumatized because I could not breathe listening to the conversation and my boyfriend is tired of the grandmother drama he wants to leave me because he was living with me and they treated him badly. We were both working full time and all of our time was her caregiver and they thought we should be doing all of these extra handiwork duties and we paid her rent.


We left and they hired a caregiver and my grandmother and sister fired them because my sister needed the money and she was paid and was given two days off and they expected my mom to pick up the other two days and it made it harder on my mom and it’s affecting my mom.


My grandmother is so cruel and manipulative and lies and I was treated like a prisoner and I just can’t do it. So much has happened and cruelty when we were there and my heart is still so broken. My grandmother is racist and it comes out the way she treats me. It is affecting my relationship with my boyfriend and it’s not fair.


What can I do to make them stop pressuring me? I already said no and made it clear. My mom knows how scared I am and what I was put through. I can’t breathe and am terrified. What else can I say to make myself clear?

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Oftentimes, the best way to explain your position is not to explain it. Play dumb if you have to -- "Oh, I thought you heard me say no. You didn't? Yeah, I said no."

When they ask why, don't go into details, because they already know your reasons. Just repeat the above again -- "Oh, I thought you heard me say no. You didn't? Yeah, I said no."

Add a bland expression on your face, too, so they know this is no big deal to you because this was settled a long time ago as far as you're concern. You're just waiting for them to catch up.

Just keep your responses short and repetitive. No one can argue with someone who won't engage with them.
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Beatty Mar 2021
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Arp, have you heard the expression "actions speak louder than words"?

Stop showing up. Stop talking to them.

They are not listening to you and YOU seem to think that their stupid, unrealistic, manipulative expectations are orders that you need to follow.

So what if they get mad?
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You're not going to like hearing what I am about to say, but here goes:

Throughout your post you say something, several times, to the effect of: "I can't do this, but if I don't my mom will be stuck and have a bad vacation, and I feel bad". Your mom is getting ready to go on vacation, and that's great for her - but WHY are any of you expected to pick up the caregiving slack? I'm not saying mom doesn't deserve her vacation - but if your grandma needs that level of care, and there is clearly no one who is willing - or able - to step in and assume the roll until mom returns, then mom should be looking into respite care for her mother. Her assumption that either you or your sister will jump in is, in my opinion, just as manipulative; especially as you have said over and over you are NOT willing to do it, and you say mom is well aware of what doing this in the past has done to you... It seems to me that your mom is every bit as manipulative as grandma, especially if she's laying on a guild trip with you/sis trying to rope you into a burden that you are not willing to bear,

Mom's having a good vacation is in no way, shape or form your responsibility. It's great that she's going on vacation, it really is - but it's not your responsibility to make sure there is caregiving arranged so that that can happen. When I went on vacation, I made sure there was respite care arranged for my mom, and yes, it was a complicated pain, but I persevered and got it done, so I could enjoy my vacation without any sort of qualms about mom's care.

Suggest to mom she find professional respite care for the duration of her vacation, and step away from the toxicity.
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Arp1754 Mar 2021
Wow, I didn’t even think of respite care. Is there a respite program that is available? How did you find it?
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In a reply on another post you said after all you have been thru with this grandmom, you visit. Why! You can see she sets you up. Do you want to be arrested for elder abuse. Get away from your family. As its been said on this forum that "No" is a complete sentence. Mom will just need to use ur sister or hire someone.

"There was a emergency so I stopped by and it was assumed I would stay the night even without asking me." This is where u should have stood your ground. You gave in so now they think they can manipulate you again. Stand your ground? No you will not care for Grandmom. She is a racist and abusive and its not fair that they feel your should put up with it.

Your boyfriend has sort of given u an ultimatum. He stood by you the whole time you cared for grandmom. Now you have gotten away, he does not what to go back. I will assume ur young. Its time to continue to stand on your own two feet. You helped for a year with no appreciation. Its time to make a life away from these people. Family should not treat family this way. If you want, help in other ways. Grocery shop. Run errands. But do not enter grandmoms house. Say NO and if they get mad they get mad. You need to make a life of your own. You owe these people nothing.
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You do not need to explain any further. Just say NO it was already discussed.
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Actions speak louder than words. Say nothing more, just walk away and don't go back.
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Making it clear is the first step. Be direct. "No I won't be doing XYZ".

That's within your control.
Whether they HEAR you is not. Or they do hear you but still try to manipulate - this also is not in your control.

Your responses & reactions ARE in your control.

Be very wary of any little tasks. Any time you fell in a hole, need to step around it next time!

Ride home that blows out to ride home + shopping trip + care duties? I have been there done that too 😳 so no longer offer rides home at all. Pop over for a quick request & find a mornings work as the carer was told a relative was coming? Been there too.

What got through to mine was *tough love boundaries*
1. No, I won't be...
2. Not turning up if I said no
3. Not bending for emotional blackmail (unsafe, fall, ill). Call EMS instead.
4. Not turning up when EMS called as then left as 'responsible person' with duty of care.

Say no. Act no. You've got this.
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Arp1754 Mar 2021
Thanks that’s how I got tricked last time and I am suffer major ptsd from what I went through. The room started to spin and my head was shaking and I was so dizzy I thought I was going to faint until my sister came. My mom had to go to the hospital but I was under the understanding that someone was going to watch her and me and my sister was supposed to take my grandmother to her appointment. My sister asked if they made arrangements for her. then we my grandma said she guesses I was going to stay with her for the night and my mom assumed the same thing. Good thing my sister stayed with me
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Apr, I read your response.

Do you mean you have been added as secondary on the POA? In my State, unless things have changed, a POA can be assigned without that person being aware. So, if I were you, I would contact the lawyer who added you as secondary and tell him you want him to revoke the assignment. Just because someone assigns you does not mean you have to accept it. Remember, You Don't Have to Except It! I think Grandma thinks she can control you by assigning you.

A POA does not mean you have to physically care for someone. Its not even invoked until the person is no longer competent to handle their own lives. Financial means you handle their bills. When their money is gone, you don't use your own. You can hire people to do the caring and errand running, ect. But in your situation, it means grandma thinks you'll be at her beck and call. Thats not how it works. Actually, if Gma becomes incompetent, you "sort of control" her. You become her representative. Carrying out what she has requested, making decisions in her best interest. Which means...you get to pick her Nursing Home because being her POA does not mean you do the physical caring. Just means you make sure she is safe, fed and cared for. And if placing her in a NH covers these 3 things, then so be it.

You are learning early in life what it means to be independent. What comes with that independence comes the knowledge that you don't need to put up with any negativity. Think of it this way, you breaking away from Grandma may help another family member have the confidence to do the same thing.

Since you have so much anxiety dealing with grandma and other relatives, I think the best thing you can do is step way back. I really don't understand why you chose to visit Grandma. Are you thinking she will change, are you looking for love that she is not capable of giving? There are ways you can help Mom without being involved with grandmom. Stop allowing yourself to be abused. Great that you moved out, you were right to do it. You made the first step, you are learning to stand on your own feet. No is a whole sentence. No explanations, N0.
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Arp1754 Apr 2021
Thanks for the clarification. I guess I am just scarred. I am afraid that they were trying to find a way to legally make me be her caregiver. I don’t know the legal terms of poa but all I know is that they can add you without asking you. I even asked why go to me who has experienced it and hated it and made it clear when there are other people in the family. My grandmother wants to be stubborn and not pay for a caregiver and I tell her that her other option might be a nursing home. Some reason they think I should be the one who did it.

I go visit because I don’t want to live with regrets by not seeing my family. I didn’t want to miss out because of my anxiety. I had to bring my cat with me at first to keep me calm. It was months before I had the courage to go see her. I did go to her birthday because our family is weird that we go to birthdays no matter what. Someone told me to get her a gag gift to break the ice and I took it too seriously. Everything was going fine until people wanted to instigate and make suggestions. I was even brushing it off when they were saying that my sister who got paid, didn’t have to work, get two days off , didn’t have to pay rent and didn’t have to the extra yard work did better than me. They want to change things but not take responsibility. Like fire the caregiver and then suggested I take over I got really loud stood up and said no and everyone laughed and said okay. My sister wanted to do it because she wanted the money but my grandmother didn’t want her white grandchildren to do the hard work but she ended up accepting because my sister said she needed the money. Then my grandmother wants a slave but doesn’t want to treat my sister as a slave and want to pressure me to be there three days a week for free to relieve my sister and to start off when my mom starts vacation. My sister is fine where she is at but my grandmother wants more but does bot want to mistreat her like me. She even said she had it good with me and I even said when I was your slave and she stopped pushing it. I just have to be on my toes there so my boyfriend comes with me to make sure that they don’t pressure me anymore.

I even talked to my other who said that my mom was going to be with me and she even said she refused to do because she doesn’t want to be set up. I feel my mom was trying to trick me into doing it by myself even though I made it clear I wasn’t going to do it.? I just am afraid that it would also lead to me being the full time caregiver because they tried to trick me again. They were all talking to me like I agreed to being there half of the time my mom was already on vacation and kept going on and on like I said yes to that even though she only asked for two days and I made it clear twenty times I said no. I was saying I wasn’t doing that, my sister said she was staying the whole 9 days, and I refuse to do it and they kept going like they didn’t hear me and I got loud and said I said no what part of no don’t you understand. We will not have this conversation again. My sister got mad at me because she said my delivery could have been better and I was stirring the pot. I told her to shutup or I will slap her or she could do it. She got mad and said that she refused to be her caregiver and I better not bring it up. I got mad at her because of the double standards that she thought it was okay for them to continue to pressure me even after what they put me through but I am not allowed to stand up for myself. My mom stopped when I told her my sister is fine with staying and she doesn’t know that you are trying to find someone behind her back and she won’t do it completely when she finds out she is trying to push her out and she would definitely cancel her trip because I am not doing it period for one hour day week. You should be okay leaving her 9 days. You were fine leaving me 365 with no day off.


btw, sorry about the rant
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Absolutely stay out of this situation entirely. There is no need for you to do anything. This is your mom's problem anyway; it's her mother. Please do not let your generous feelings toward your mom entice you into this. Actually false abuse accusations are very dangerous. Very. Your and your boyfriend must not underestimate the danger.
Think about it this way. Your mom is responsible here. She needs to take the appropriate steps. You really have nothing to do with it - it is on her and the sooner she deals with it the better. Putting it off is just blowing hot air. Not dealing with what must be done. After all, your grandmother's medical problems are her problems, not yours. If she needs to go into a nursing home, so be it. NOT your fault. You've taken enough abuse with mom and grandma dodging this issue. Don't walk into danger.

And as to the POA you CANNOT be forced to accept POA -doesn't matter if they "add you". You do not have to agree to undertake it. Furthermore this does not obligate you to be a caregiver. POA's are not responsible for hands on caregiving. Nor do they have the responsibility that a court appointed guardian would. And you cannot be forced to be a guardian. I would not try to argue with these people - they are wrong or they are lying to you. Not worth your time and effort in explaining to them or tying to make them understand. Just encourages them to argue and manipulate. Just refusing to step up is the only thing they will understand, of necessity.
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Arp1754 Apr 2021
Yeah I am trying to heal from this what makes it worse is that memories from my childhood is coming back from when I was abused and they forced me to stay in that situation and all instances of it are coming back like when they got mad at me for finally going to the authorities and the abuser went to jail. I, not the abuser was accused by my family of ruining the family. I am trying to find a hotline to call because I don’t want to go to in person therapy because of the corona
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Please note that many if not most therapists are helping via skype, zoom etc. I'd call a hotline, perhaps for abused women, or one of the hotlines to help people deal with the pandemic.
But one thing I would definitely not do is go anywhere near grandma. I hope you realize how you could have been in jail because of a false accusation. Please take NO chances. Your "family" have shown you what they are - believe them!
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