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My 72 year old father was intubated after he became unconscious and my mother took him to ER by an ambulance 5 days ago. He is a congestive heart failure patient and he’s had ICD for 2 years. He was feeling mostly bad for the last 6 months, however he was still able to work 2 weeks ago. Last two weeks, he has not been eating and mostly sleeping. And my mother says he had an involuntarily arm movement before he became unconscious. He raised his right hand and he kept punching his implanted ICD. My mother called our relative and an ambulance at the same time. Our relative came before the ambulance. He asked my daddy how he was and my daddy replied him by saying “I’m good, how are you?” in a very zombie mood, without moving, looking at straight. When the ambulance came, he looked very frightened with wide open eyes. He was accepted to ER and intubated right away. Since then he is not waking up, doctors are saying he is in very critical condition. After 2 days they said that his kidneys are failing too and doctors asked us if we try dialysis or if we should let him go. We continued with dialysis but doctor said no output. And then I asked him how long dialysis will continue today. This time he said there is no output but test results are not bad so they won’t make dialysis unless his results get worse. However he is not responding at all. I asked them isn’t this normal as he’s just intubated 5 days ago, They day, they don’t give him any sedative and they should have had some responses. Doctors definitely want my daddy let go. I was believing whatever they say until I read the messages here. Has anyone had any similar experience before? Is it good to try all the possible ways or are we beating up by prolonging the time? Thank you in advance. I wish everyone gets treated in a best way.

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I am very sorry your father isn't responding to care. We cannot give you medical advice. I am a nurse, but know that we cannot conceivably understand all that is going on in your father's case. I would listen to his doctors; you will have to make decisions on what their diagnosis of his condition is, and what prognosis he has for any kind of quality of life. I am very sorry for what you are all going through.
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Melisbde Jun 2021
Thank you so much AlvaDeer. Very appreciated for your quick answer and support. You made me feel I’m not alone.
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If your dad is intubated, to my knowledge, he wouldn't be able to speak. They have to keep a patient sedated so they won't pull at the tubes.

Are you maybe confusing being on oxygen through a cannula (small tube) in his nose? That wouldn't keep him from speaking. A full intubation is very different.

The zero output from the kidneys means they have/are failing.

You can keep up with the aggressive care, or let time take its toll. I'm sorry, from what you have written, is sounds like death is very close. For us, when dad's kidneys failed, we stopped all but the morphine and ativan. He died calmly and peacefully in a couple of days.
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If he is intubated like Midkid explained, he was probably sedated because it goes down your throat. (I am gagging just thinking about it) They stop the sedation to bring him out of it so they can remove it to see if he can breath on his own. But seems Dad is not coming out of it.
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Thank you so much for your answer Midkid58, I’m sorry for your loss. Yes, my day is intubated. This is why I’m puzzled. He should not response and he should be on a sedative. However his doctors are expecting a response and they claim no sedative.
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